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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #186
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-
- Info-Hams Digest Mon, 21 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 186
-
- Today's Topics:
- c
- Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 19 February
- FCC Digest
- Help-Best Antenna Feed Methods (2 msgs)
- IRC questions ...
- Isla de Omotepe, Nicaragua, DXpedition 25-27 Feb
- New 2m radio
- New QRZ! Ham Radio Callbook CDROM: $15.95
- Ramsey debate
- RFD: rec.radio.pendantic
-
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- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Feb 94 17:16:50 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!glasgow!unix.brighton.ac.uk!ic5@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: c
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- --
- ***************************************************************************
- * *
- * There`s only one way of life.... Ian Connelly, *
- * And that`s your own............. BSc (Hons) Computer Science Yr2. *
- * University of Brighton. *
- * ic5@uk.ac.brighton.unix *
- * *
- * Forget the disclaimer, I`m always wrong. *
- ***************************************************************************
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 17:37:28 MST
- From: nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@beaver.cs.washington.edu
- Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 19 February
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
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-
- DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACT
-
- 19 FEBRUARY, 1994
-
- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
-
- (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)
-
-
- SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACT
- ------------------------------------------------------------
-
- !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 050, 02/19/94
- 10.7 FLUX=108.0 90-AVG=106 SSN=054 BKI=3343 3333 BAI=016
- BGND-XRAY=B2.1 FLU1=4.2E+06 FLU10=1.6E+04 PKI=3344 3343 PAI=017
- BOU-DEV=028,021,040,029,023,027,038,021 DEV-AVG=028 NT SWF=00:000
- XRAY-MAX= B7.3 @ 0303UT XRAY-MIN= B1.8 @ 1844UT XRAY-AVG= B2.5
- NEUTN-MAX= +003% @ 0945UT NEUTN-MIN= -002% @ 2020UT NEUTN-AVG= +0.4%
- PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 1945UT PCA-MIN= -0.4DB @ 0330UT PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
- BOUTF-MAX=55351NT @ 0749UT BOUTF-MIN=55305NT @ 1827UT BOUTF-AVG=55333NT
- GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+062,+000,+000
- GOES6-MAX=P:+123NT@ 1918UT GOES6-MIN=N:-085NT@ 0722UT G6-AVG=+088,+039,-027
- FLUXFCST=STD:110,110,115;SESC:110,110,115 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,010,015/012,010,015
- KFCST=2234 4321 1234 5321 27DAY-AP=005,003 27DAY-KP=2212 2122 2112 0111
- WARNINGS=
- ALERTS=
- !!END-DATA!!
-
- NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 18 FEB 94 was 42.0.
- The Full Kp Indices for 18 FEB 94 are: 2- 2o 2- 3- 2- 2o 1+ 3-
- The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 18 FEB 94 are: 7 8 7 14 6 8 5 12
- Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 19 FEB is: 1.0E+08
-
-
- SYNOPSIS OF ACT
- --------------------
-
- Solar activity was very low. Little eruptive activity of
- any type occurred. One new Region, 7674 (S14E24) emerged to
- join the three other spotted regions visible. Region 7671
- (N12W00) remains the dominant spot group.
-
- Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be
- low.
-
- The geomagnetic field has been at unsettled to mildly
- active levels the past 24 hours.
-
- Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is
- expected to be mostly unsettled throughout the interval.
-
- Event probabilities 20 feb-22 feb
-
- Class M 05/05/05
- Class X 01/01/01
- Proton 01/01/01
- PCAF Green
-
- Geomagnetic activity probabilities 20 feb-22 feb
-
- A. Middle Latitudes
- Active 25/25/25
- Minor Storm 15/15/15
- Major-Severe Storm 05/05/05
-
- B. High Latitudes
- Active 25/25/25
- Minor Storm 15/15/25
- Major-Severe Storm 05/05/05
-
- HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions,
- except the auroral latitudes where sporadic fading was observed.
- No changes are expected over the next 72 hours.
-
-
- COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
- ========================================================
-
- REGIONS WIT
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE
- 7670 N09W11 199 0000 AXX 00 001 ALPHA
- 7671 N11W00 188 0340 CKO 07 010 BET
- 7673 N08W78 266 0000 AXX 00 001 ALPHA
- 7674 S14E24 164 0000 BXO 03 002 BET
- 7669 N08W21 209 PLAGE
- 7672 N03W11 199 PLAGE
- REGIONS DUE TO RET
- NMBR LAT
- 7663 N13 089
-
-
- LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 19 FEBRUARY, 1994
- -------------------------------------------------------
- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP
- NONE
-
-
- POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 19 FEBRUARY, 1994
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV
- NO EVENTS OBSERVED
-
-
- INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 19/2400Z
- ---------------------------------------------------
- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXT
- EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN
- NONE VISIBLE
-
-
- SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
- ------------------------------------------------
-
- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz
- ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- ---------
- 18 Feb: 0538 0542 0546 C1.1 SF 7671 N07E24
- 0912 0956 1017 C1.1
- 1314 1319 1322 B5.6 SF 7671 N08E21
- 2035 2039 2044 B4.3
- 2148 2152 2154 B4.2
-
-
- REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
- ------------------------------------------------
-
- C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%)
- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------
- Region 7671: 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 002 (40.0)
- Uncorrellated: 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 003 (60.0)
-
- Total Events: 005 optical and x-ray.
-
-
- EVENTS WIT
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations
- ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ ---------------------------
- NO EVENTS OBSERVED.
-
- NOTES:
- All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max,
- and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After.
- All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
- associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
- x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
- optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.
-
- Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:
-
- II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
- III = Type III Sweep
- IV = Type IV Sweep
- V = Type V Sweep
- Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
- Loop = Loop Prominence System,
- Spray = Limb Spray,
- Surge = Bright Limb Surge,
- EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.
-
-
- ** End of Daily Report **
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 22:36:55 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
- Subject: FCC Digest
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <arog.761755657@BIX.com> arog@BIX.com (arog on BIX) writes:
- >
- >I'll 'third' it.
- >
- >I much appreciate the posting of info on the Commission's
- >actions to the net. I'll grant that some of it is not
- >ham.radio specific, but the overview is much needed by
- >folks here.
- >
-
- I have no opinion one way or the other, but maybe to satisfy both parties
- it could be posted on just rec.radio.info - that seems like a VERY
- appropriate forum.
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 94 18:32:55 -0500
- From: yale.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@yale.arpa
- Subject: Help-Best Antenna Feed Methods
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Please give me some ideas on the best ways to feed antennas through walls,
- windows without trashing siding, walls etc. Does anyone make an energy
- efficient
- device that you can put in a window that could feed all types of antenna
- lines. Does anyone have plans for such?
- Thank
- John Quist
- KA2URB
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Feb 94 14:55:52 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Help-Best Antenna Feed Methods
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <xI2q2K-.jquist@delphi.com> John Quist <jquist@delphi.com> writes:
- >Please give me some ideas on the best ways to feed antennas through walls,
- >windows without trashing siding, walls etc. Does anyone make an energy
- >efficient
- >device that you can put in a window that could feed all types of antenna
- >lines. Does anyone have plans for such?
-
- As is the case with automobile antenna installations, the best advice
- is to *get out the drill*, however, you can use a block of wood as
- a feedthru in a window if your lease won't let you drill the wall.
- Drill the wood, put it in the window, and close the window against it.
- If you don't mind replacing the glass when you move, you can also just
- *drill the glass* for your antenna feedthrus. (Note there are tricks
- to successfully drilling glass. If you don't know them, consult someone
- who does.)
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 21:08:16 GMT
- From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com!user@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: IRC questions ...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CLL1qB.KBs@rd1.InterLan.COM>, tavernin@sun1.interlan.com
- (Victor Tavernini) wrote:
-
- > How many Internation Reply Coupons are need for return postage of a
- > QSL card ... does the number of IRCs differ from country to country?
- > or is one IRC all that is necessary to send?
-
- One IRC is first class (surface) postage from any IPU country to the US.
- Note that not all countries belong to the IPU (International Postal Union).
-
- For most countries you really want air mail, and that is where things get
- difficult. The Air Mail rate ranges from 2 to 10 IRCs depoending on the
- country (of course the ones where surface mail is awfull want 10 IRCs :-)
-
- This changes from time to time, so you need to check the K6JO (?) QSL
- managewr list or a recent callbook for the latest info.
-
- BTW *never* buy IRCs fromthe post office, send a check for $10 to a QSL
- manager and ask to buy some IRCs - he gets more than the post office will
- give him and they cost you less! When I last did that they were around 30
- cents apiece that way.
-
- Good DX! Mike AA4MW
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 94 12:51:46 GMT
- From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!nigel.msen.com!caen!nic.umass.edu!usenet@ames.arpa
- Subject: Isla de Omotepe, Nicaragua, DXpedition 25-27 Feb
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- OMETEPE (NICARAGUA) 94 DX EXPEDITION
- February 25,26,27, 1994
-
- The island of Ometepe is located in Lake Nicaragua, the third largest
- lake in Latin America. It is said to be the largest island in the world
- within a lake. The island is dominated by two volcanos, 1610 meter
- Concepcion, and 1394 meter Madera, and has a population of 35,000
- people living within its 266 square km. area.
-
- The following is excerpted and translated from a message from YN1TV to
- N1AW (YN1ASW):
-
- On the island of Ometepe there are no radio amateurs, which is a big
- problem for those OMs who want a QSO with all the islands of the world.
- This is the reason we are going to invade Ometepe and attempt to put
- it on the air on HF using packet, RTTY, CW, and SSB. The expedition
- will camp at the place known as San Marcos, 8 km from Moyogalpa, on the
- shore of the Great Lake of Nicaragua. It is an ideal location for
- experiments with antennas.
-
- The expedition will be on the air from 0000 UTC Friday February 25,
- 1994 until 1100 UTC Sunday February 27.
-
- The call for this DXpedition will be H70O Hotel Seven Zero Oscar, which
- has been officially solicited for the Club de Radio Experimentadores de
- Nicaragua (CREN).
-
- QSL INFORMATION: H70O
- Postbox 4636
- Managua, Nicaragua
- 2 Greenstamps for QSL
- 4 Greenstamps for Diploma
-
- Organizadores del evento DX Expedition Ometepe 94:
-
- Humberto Diaz S. YN7DS
- Reneiro Montiel Jr. YN1RS
- Manuel Navarro YN1ABL
- Juan de la Cruz Rodriguez YN1JRP
- Jose Antonio Roman YN5JAR
- Theo Vlaar YN1TV
- Inge Vlaar XYL YN1TV
- Douglas Arias Conzales YN5ZDC
-
- Para mas informacion:
- CREN, Postbox 925, Managua, Nicaragua
- Tel: 505-2-71274/74937
-
- Humberto Diaz S. YN1DS
- Postbox 159, Masaya, Nicaragua
- Tel. : 505-52-4861
- FAX. : 505-52-3826
-
- Theo Vlaar YN1TV
- Villa Fontana Norte #67, Managua, Nicaragua
- Tel: 505-2-73512
- E-Mail: theo@nicarao.apc.org
- theo@theo.radio.ni
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Feb 94 15:24:24 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: New 2m radio
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <dward.761767686@wyvern.wyvern.com> dward@.infi.net (Dale Ward) writes:
- >OK. I need some advice. I'm returning to the air after a long absence and
- >would like recommendations on what type of 2m vhf-fm radio to purchase. I
- >desire portability, so that probably means an HT. In addition to brand
- >names, what features should I get -- at a minimum, as well as "nice to have"
- >for future operation. I travel by vehicle around the SE US, so will need to
- >be able to access many different repeaters. So, what do you say?
-
- If you travel in your own, or your company's, car, you'll be much happier,
- as will all those who have to listen to your signals, if you install a
- mobile rig and proper antenna rather than trying to make do with a HT.
- If you use rentals, you may be stuck with a HT, or a "bagphone" equivalent
- consisting of a small mobile rig such as the Icom IC229A, gell cell,
- cigarette plug adaptor, and a magmount antenna. You won't have satisfactory
- results with just the rubber dummy load that comes on HTs except in rare
- locations, and their low power, susceptability to intermod when used with
- an outside antenna, and low audio output will make you miserable in the car.
-
- With the proliferation of 440 MHz activity in much of the country, you
- may also want to consider a dualband radio. I consider Alinco the value
- leader for function per dollar, but Yaesu and Icom also make good radios.
- I don't particularly like Kenwood VHF radios due to a history of problems,
- but others seem to think they're acceptable. If you're set on a 2 meter
- only HT, then the Radio Shack HTX202 is an excellent value with good
- intermod rejection. Most of the others on the market today try to pretend
- that they're GP scanners as well as two way radios, and thus suffer the
- problems inherent in wide receiver front ends.
-
- My choice in my vehicle is the Alinco 590, and my HT is the Yaesu FT470.
- Both perform acceptably for the uses to which I put them. I wouldn't
- consider using the HT in the car, however, since it's wide front end
- causes it to suffer extreme intermod when used on an external antenna.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 00:07:13 GMT
- From: olivea!sgigate.sgi.com!odin!chuck.dallas.sgi.com!adams@ames.arpa
- Subject: New QRZ! Ham Radio Callbook CDROM: $15.95
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I got the QRZ CDROM a month ago on the internet "special"
- offered by Fred. This was the best use of money for ham
- radio for under $20.
-
- This CDROM should give Buckmaster and the others a run for
- their money, since they are at the $50 level.
-
- I use the UNIX (tm) version of the callbook. During one
- run of 25 calls that I looked up for QSLs to stations worked
- during a QRP contest, it took less than 3 seconds on a workstation.
- I did this by creating a script with the lines
- call k5fjz k5jkb ... (for five calls)
- call xxxxxx xxxx xxx
-
- with five calls per line, since the program halts every five for
- <cr> as it assumes it's in an interactive mode from a terminal.
-
- I plan on submitting the data base for ALL 180,000+ US cities
- and a C program to do great-circle bearing calculations for the
- next verions of the QRZ CDROM. The data base alone if more than
- 5MB!!!
-
- Anyway, my $0.02 worth of publicity. I'm NOT paid for this
- endorsement, just another happy satisfied customer.
-
- There are a lot of other programs and data bases on the ROM,
- but I haven't had time to play with them yet.
-
-
- dit dit
- --
- Chuck Adams K5FO CP-60
- adams@sgi.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Feb 94 17:34:18 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Ramsey debate
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Haven't felt it was appropriate to get back in the
- middle of the debate, but I was very offended at the comments made
- directly at me. People on the network and across the country know me..
- I have never had anyone call me a liar, and to my knowledge haven't
- had any problems with anyone I have personally dealt with
- (giving and receiving information, and buying and selling equipments).
- I have people calling many nights during the week to ask for help and
- ask general questions.. haven't had a problem with any of them.
-
- I am always most willing to "look in the mirror". Been happy with what I
- see. What I related on the net was a documented experience I had with
- John Ramsey, no more, no less. It was based on facts not fiction and had
- nothing to do with his personal being outside the realm of my experience
- with him. When I called him a "liar" I think I specifically related the
- lie he told me.. this seemed reasonable. I was also very offended that
- he was saying things to customers on the phone that were negative about
- me (also documented). In contrast, I don't know of an instance where I
- have lied to ANYONE... it is not something I think is a good attribute
- and never do it knowingly. I think I was not negative about the building
- of the Ramsey kit and remember specifically saying I thought the
- building of it was in fact fun up till the final alignment (so please be
- accurate when you attempt to call someone a liar with absolutely no
- information).
-
- I know I am not in the least guilty of any immoral or unprofessional
- behavior...and think it may be time to let this drop.. I was just trying
- to relate an experience to help people avoid problems I personally
- encountered. I have heard MANY other people relate problems with this
- company or I would have not said anything to start with.
-
- 73.. this is suppose to be a supportive, fun hobby .. isn't it.
-
- Jeff, AC4HF (and proud of it)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 17:45:50 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcomsv!skyld!jangus@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: RFD: rec.radio.pendantic
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CLJo0C.9t6@news.Hawaii.Edu> jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu spews:
-
- [ nothing of importance as usual ]
- >
- > Jeff NH6IL
- >
-
- For Christs sake Jeff. Give it a fucking rest.
-
- I voted for Bush both times, how about accusing me of murder since I had
- a hand in electing the Commander in Chief that ordered Desert Storm?
-
- By the way, lists of frequencies used by various agencies are published
- in books and magazines in most electronics type stores. How about telling
- me that Radio Shack promotes jamming the police. Heh?
-
- Tom Kneitel (spelling?) pushes his frequency compendium by splattering
- the word SECRET in 3" high caps across the cover. How about it? Is he
- promoting jamming various services? Perhaps instead he could be accused
- of aiding and abetting drug dealers by publishing the DEA comm channels.
-
- Since you seem to have to have the last word, and constantly stir up shit
- over non-issues how about we create a new newsgroup for you.
-
- rec.radio.pendantic
-
- Simple and efficient. You can cover amateur, CB and commercial without
- cross-posting. You might even get a few of the others with a flair to
- the verbose to join you over there.
-
- Bottomline disclaimer for the humor impaired. Yup, I used the F-word.
- If you're too lazy to scan the news before forwarding it onto the RF
- via packet, it's your problem, not mine. Re-read your copy of part 97.
-
- Side Note: How many remember Uncle Toms Cabin in Popular Electronics?
-
-
- Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA | "You have a flair for adding
- Internet: jangus@skyld.grendel.com | a fanciful dimension to any
- US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749 | story."
- Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080 | Peking Noodle Co.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 22:33:48 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994Feb3.190229.8136@arrl.org>, <x8yqthx.jramsey@delphi.com>, <2jqtltINNkan@abyss.West.Sun.COM>
- Subject : Re: RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER
-
- In article <2jqtltINNkan@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers ) writes:
- > ..........
- >By the way, be sure to read alt.radio.pirate; .....
-
- _NOW_ I understand your stance, Dana; now I understand why you continue to
- come to the defense of suspected illegals.
-
- Hmmm, I wonder if there might be a bit of piracy in your past. That might
- explain your defending those I chastise for promoting illegal operations.
- Maybe you're feeling a little guilty?
-
- And don't say ``Get over it Jeff'' because now I will always suspect your
- past.
-
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 23:46:57 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2k3apaINNmjf@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, <CLIIwE.Luv@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <2k8eh3INNnac@abyss.West.Sun.COM>
- Subject : Re: Help me (was Re: Spectral purity of 2m tx (was Re: RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER
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- In article <2k8eh3INNnac@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers ) writes:
- >In article <CLIIwE.Luv@news.Hawaii.Edu> jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jeff Herman) writes:
- >>In article <2k3apaINNmjf@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers ) writes:
- >>>
- >>>Anyway, comparing 1kW on 11m to the amateur rules is pointless.
- >>>Amateurs have historically been very proud of a strict compliance
- >>>to the rules, and frequently ridicule 11m folks for not complying
- >>>with the appropriate rules. I should hope you aren't condoning the
- >>>operation of radios with illegal harmonic outputs on sensitive aero bands.
- >>
- >>Why not? You'll defend a pirate who posts 6MHz air-to-ground
- >>frequencies on rec.radio.cb in answer to a query posted by an other
- >>pirate as to what frequencies other illegals were using outside of
- >>11M. Don't sound so high and mighty on here Dana while at the same time
- >>defend illegals posting (inviting?) pirate operation on air-to-ground
- >>channels.
- >
- >This really isn't worth a response, much less one to the Usenet, but
- >I'll make one attempt. Jeff Herman has engaged in pattern of attempting
- >inflame newsgroups, by posting such inflammatory notes. This is my
- >only response, since my experience with people exhibiting the conduct
- >I see in Jeff is that they'll go away if you ignore them.
-
-
- Nice try Dana, but you're the one who seems to follow me from one news-
- group to another commenting on MY posts. You're the one who wants to
- play the role of Public Defender. Inflame newsgroups? Nope. But I'm
- not going to hide my head when I suspect someone has broken the law.
-
- Recall I was a radio officer in the U.S. Coast Guard. I am VERY sensitive
- when I suspect foul play in the air. For years at Group Monterey Station
- we had to put up with jamming on 2182 kHz (world-wide MF voice distress
- frequency) and occasionally even on VHF ch16. I didn't put up with it
- then and I won't put up with it now, whether it occures on or off
- the ham bands.
-
- If you see me chastising someone for suspected illegal operation, feel
- free to hit the `n' key. But If you're going to attack me, expect to
- receive a few comments yourself.
-
- It seems ``you can dish it out but you can't take it''.
-
- >
- >For what it is worth, on rec.radio.cb, I *did* post note suggesting
- >that Jeff's threat to report an SWL to the ITU was frivolous. In fact,
- >I attempted to point out that there was no evidence that this alleged
- >"pirate" Jeff talks about was anything but an SWL.
-
- who was posting the 6MHz air-to-ground frequencies as a
- place for pirates to transmit on.
-
- >>Oh, and let's not forget your coming to Shoup's defense (December) after
- >>I chastised him for stating he was going to put a 5kw xmtr on the ham
- >>bands.
- >
- >Mike Shoupe did state he had a couple of 5KW AM transmitters he intended
- >to place on the ham bands, when his license permitted. From the context,
- >it was suggested that Shoupe intends to abide by the regulations of his
- >license class. Next thing we know, Jeff Herman is posting a series of
-
- Sorry but ``from the context'' it was never suggested that Shoupe intends
- to abide by any regulation. Recall he took delight in bragging about
- his illegal past activities.
-
- >notes condemning Shoupe as an "outlaw" and "scofflaw". It is certainly
-
- Yep. He's the one who bragged about his outlaw activites.
-
- >the case that a high-powered transmitter may be operated at reduced power,
- >often with improved performance. It is also the case that Mr. Shoupe may
- >not yet be aware the AM power limits are less than the oft talked about
- >1.5KW output limit.
- >
- >>Make up your mind as to which side of the law you stand on.
- >
- >I stand on the side of compliance and respect for the rights of
- >individuals. For some reason, Herman feels compelled to carry on
- >a campaign against any Usenet poster who even suggests something that
- >is contrary to law, and Jeff feels compelled to carry on a campaign
- >especially against me, on several occaisions quoting me out of context
-
- No Myers, you're the one with a vendetta. ``Get over it.''
-
- >and making completely false assertions with regards to me.
-
- Not true. ``... completely false assertions...'' is completely false.
-
- >
- >For the record, I oppose any kind of illegal radio operation.
- >
- >For the record, I oppose the violation of legal and ethical rights
- >of people.
-
- Good. Then disregard this need you have of coming to the rescue of
- those who I suspect and chastise for illegal operations. Let them
- defend themselves. Twice on rec.radio.cb you've felt the need
- to defend someone (the linear amp thread and the 6MHz air-to-ground
- frequencies post) that I took exception to. Leave me alone and
- I'll do the same.
-
- >
- >If Mr. Herman wishes to condemn me for this stance, fine. However,
- >I do not believe this kind of personal vendetta is appropriate for
-
- Hmmm, when I mentioned the personal vendetta you had against me back
- in December, you're response was, I believe, `get over it'.
- Again, if you want a truce then let the suspected illegals defend
- themselves.
-
- >a newsgroup. If you have further questions or comments on the
- >issue, please feel free to write to me at:
- >
- >Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com
- >
- >If you have any questions or comments for Jeff Herman, his e-mail
- >address is:
- >
- >jherman@Hawaii.Edu
- >
- >Thank you,
- >Dana
-
- 73 Dana,
- Jeff NH6IL
-
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